This is a Christian blog and I believe in Jesus but I have to give props to this Islamic fellow for using the Torah or Old Testament to prove God exists scientifically.
Basically what he does is takes things that where said in the Bible and applies the probability theory to them. For instance, what is the probability that someone would guess that the light from the moon is the reflection of the sun. What are the possibilities? It could make it’s own light, or reflect the light of the sun, or reflect the light of some other star. This would give a person a 1 in 3 change to get this correct.
Basically he takes several examples and puts them together for a 0% chance that someone could guess all the things that where said thousands of years ago that science has proven to be correct today.
It is a pretty good argument that I would not mind getting an atheist’s view on.
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It’s a good argument, if you make the same assumptions about the Quran that he does.
Looking at the Youtube comments on the main Youtube page for that video, though being no expert on the sayings of the Quran myself, it seems at least questionable whether the Quran makes the assertions that the speaker attributes to it.
For example, he mentioned Surah Al-Anbiya, Surah (chapter?) 21, Verse 30, when he talked about the Quran speaking to the Big Bang Theory:
“30. Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water ? Will they not then believe ?”
I agree that you could infer that the language could be taken to mean some kind of central location or source for life/non-life in the universe.
However, a few lines down, there is also this from Verse 33:
“33. And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.”
Why is there no mention of this? Here the Quran seems to be claiming that the Sun has an orbit, which goes against general scientific consensus today.
http://www.geocities.com/askress2009/quran/pickthall/surah21.html
Writing today, we could make a hundred and one predictions about the future, and lock them away in a time capsule. Millenia from now, these writings may be discovered, and using the speaker’s selective analysis, our writings could be deemed to be as divine as the Quran is, because some of our predictions about the future might be true, while our predecessors ignore our other “wrong” comments.
The dangerous flipside to this logic, now thatI think about it, is that people say “Hey, my holy book is “right” on XYZ issue, it must therefore be right on ABC issue too”. Which gives rise to supposedly “religious based” violence, homophobia, racism, etc etc.
everything he’s said depends on the quran being completely accurate in every way on every subject. it has to have described beyond doubt that the moon reflects the sun’s light, the earth is round, the universe was created by the big bang, and everything else. i am not convinced that the bible or the quran describes recently proven scientific fact as he says it does. it’s pretty easy to get a document to say whatever you want it to say if you read into it enough.
don’t moderate comments if you want to be taken seriously. censorship is never the answer. if people are being disrespectful, they are just making fools of themselves, and people will realize that. instead, delete hurtful, worthless comments after they’ve been posted
@ James
You need to chill out dude.
First you do not come to someone’s site and tell them how to run it. Second, comments are moderated because of spam issues. Third, I did not get the notification that there was a comment here so that is why it is getting approved over a month later. Fourth, if I do not like a comment or think it is inappropriate I reserve the right to delete it if I want.
This is a Christian blog and around here we don’t force our opinions on others. Don’t try telling me what to do in my own house. Suggestions are always welcome, commands will be ignored and subsequently disobeyed.
You have been warned, take that tone around here again and you will be banned.
@ Echo
I see your point about his interpretation and that’s what it comes down to. People can see a glass of water and one will say half empty while the other will say half full. Who is wrong? Neither or some would say both. It again comes down to interpretation.
For me personally it comes down to experience and things that I have seen happen in my life that I accredit God for. When it comes down to it a person has to experience God for themselves as opposed to being told they should believe something because they are being told something by someone else.
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